Dr. Nicole Tomczak-Jaegermann
  Department of Mathematical Sciences
  Faculty of Science
  University of Alberta
  632 Central Academic Building
  Edmonton, Alberta
  T6G 2G1
  
  
  Dear Dr. Tomczak-Jaegermann,
  
	  Thank you for your letter of October 10, 1995, expressing
	  your views on the adjudication of applications involving
  mathematics and statistics in the Collaborative Project Grants (CPG)
  program.  As a participant in this process, we value your
  perspective, and that of your colleagues.

	  The focus of the CPG program this year was on
	  interdisciplinary research projects, and the panels were
  constituted with this in mind. Obviously interdisciplinary panels are
  not going to have the depth of expertise that discipline committees
  like the GSCs will have. However, they will have much greater breadth
  of expertise. Expert opinion is provided by referees, and staff went
  to great lengths this year to ensure that referee reports were
  received for all applications, and most had 2-4 reports.

	  In such a system, it is incumbent on applicants to convince
	  people outside their own discipline as well as inside that
  their proposal is worthy of support. Interdisciplinary panels are
  widely used by funding bodies such as FCAR, NSF, SERC and NSERC (in
  Strategic Grants, CSP, NCE, UI  and others). I have seen no evidence
  that they are inherently unfair. Furthermore, I believe
  Mathematicians are able to compete just as effectively as researchers
  from other disciplines within the CPG program.  For example, last
  year, the success rate for Applicants from mathematics and statistics
  was 8.2% (compared to an average of 11%), and the participation rate
  in funded proposals (including applicants and co-applicants from
  mathematics and statistics) was 15.6% (compared to an average of
  12%). Statistics are not yet available for the current competition,
  but one proposal that was predominantly mathematics was funded by
  your panel.

	  You refer to an application that you found particularly
	  troubling. The deliberations of the panel on a specific case
  are  confidential, as they must be, and I would not want to breach
  this stricture in any way (specific or implied). Let me say that I am
  assured both by the Director of the CPG program, and the Program
  officer (both of whom were present) that NSERC policies were strictly
  followed during discussion of the application to which I suspect you
  are referring. This would appear to be one case where the applicants
  were unable to convince the panel as a whole of the merits of the
  proposal. I believe this was due to deficiencies of the proposal
  rather than the process.

	  Members from different disciplines, while not being
	  advocates, certainly do provide the panels with the context
  of the research and collaborative environments within their
  disciplines, especially where these are different from other
  disciplines. Panels are expected to apply the criteria in a way that
  is sensitive, and responsive to these differences. But a criterion of
  the CPG program is: the added value associated with CPG funding. The
  program is intended to provide resources to carry out specific
  projects requiring collaboration. The informal interactive (second)
  type of collaboration referred to in your letter (which I believe is
  an important activity in many, if not all disciplines) does not
  necessarily need CPG funding to occur.

	  You have placed a great deal of emphasis, in your letter, on
	  two criteria: Quality of the applicants; and quality of the
  application.  The other three criteria:  Nature and extent of
  collaboration and its interdisciplinarity; training of highly
  qualified personnel; and the added value associated with CPG funding
  are also to be considered. The onus is on the applicants to make the
  case that their project is meritorious under all of these criteria.
  This is much more than "careful packaging". This is the information
  needed by the panel members to make their decisions.

	  As  you know, the Strategy Implementation Task Force is
	  recommending that the CPG program be cancelled, and that
  collaboration be supported by different mechanisms. If this
  recommendation is accepted by Council, and the program is cancelled,
  I do not believe it is due to  criticisms such as those discussed in
  your letter. Rather it is due to the overall budgetary situation and
  the "cost-benefit" of an additional program with a relatively low
  success rate. I personally believe that the program has played an
  important role in providing financial resources for exciting
  collaborative research projects. This hypothesis can, and will be
  tested by a review of the completed projects in due course.

	  Finally, I would like to thank you for your participation in
	  the CPG panel. I recognise that you, and the other members
  have worked conscientiously to make fair and impartial judgements.
  The workload has been heavy, and members' efforts have not always
  been appreciated by their colleagues. Although we may disagree about
  a number of things, I am sure we agree that the funding of excellent
  research is vital to the future of Canada. I believe that CPG panel
  members can be proud of the role they played in this process.



					  Yours Sincerely,


					  Nigel Lloyd

  cc:  CPG Panel Members
       Math-NSERC Liaison Committee Members